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	<title>Comments on: California Renters Have Beef With Fire Safety BBQ Ban</title>
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		<title>By: c prime review</title>
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		<dc:creator>c prime review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happened to the Right of Privacy??????   Shalom and God Bless!  Jane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened to the Right of Privacy??????   Shalom and God Bless!  Jane</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 01:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am also angry at not being able to barbeque on my patio.  A few years ago the mgmt. Staff said it was OK to use the small. Propane cannisters but not the big ones. Now they put a notice. On my front door telling me that no propane of ant type can be used am. I to understand that no resident. In MT. VIEW. IS ALLOWED TO BARBEQUE?  I will call the fire. Department on Monday to get further clarification on this ridiculous law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also angry at not being able to barbeque on my patio.  A few years ago the mgmt. Staff said it was OK to use the small. Propane cannisters but not the big ones. Now they put a notice. On my front door telling me that no propane of ant type can be used am. I to understand that no resident. In MT. VIEW. IS ALLOWED TO BARBEQUE?  I will call the fire. Department on Monday to get further clarification on this ridiculous law.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Bates</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Bates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 01:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My landlord has recently threatened to take immediate action to rectify an alleged code violation by the use/presence of my barbeque with respect to fire code.  I find it curious that he is first making this an issue over three and a half years after the code has taken effects.  Furthermore, I question if the code even applies to me.  The barbeque is not on a deck or balcony, but on a brick patio outside my ground floor apartment.  I live in a two flat cottage house.  While my landlord also owns the adjacent apartment building, my unit is one of only two units in a freestanding detached building.  I was given permission to store my barbeque where it has been for over seven years now.  It does not seem to be in a location banned by the code, and even if so, I feel I should be protected by the one or two family dwelling exception.  I appreciate anyone&#039;s further insight or opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My landlord has recently threatened to take immediate action to rectify an alleged code violation by the use/presence of my barbeque with respect to fire code.  I find it curious that he is first making this an issue over three and a half years after the code has taken effects.  Furthermore, I question if the code even applies to me.  The barbeque is not on a deck or balcony, but on a brick patio outside my ground floor apartment.  I live in a two flat cottage house.  While my landlord also owns the adjacent apartment building, my unit is one of only two units in a freestanding detached building.  I was given permission to store my barbeque where it has been for over seven years now.  It does not seem to be in a location banned by the code, and even if so, I feel I should be protected by the one or two family dwelling exception.  I appreciate anyone&#8217;s further insight or opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 16:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in the second floor apartment of two-story/ 8 unit apartment building.  A couple moved in downstairs and placed a huge portable barbeque on the 3’X12’ balcony, right under my apartment. They use the barbeque almost every day (some times during thye day). I am an ‘open windows/no AC’ person and they fill my apartment with smoke, stink of the burning meat, garlic and other smells to the point that when I come home from work I sometimes have a hard time breathing. It has been going on for almost a year and while the landlord is refusing to do anything about it, I attempted to talk to them but only result was me getting cursed out. 
Does anyone know if it is legal to have and operate an open flame/gas operated barbecue in the multi dwelling unit not protected by fire sprinklers in Beverly Hills, CA.  Thank you in advance for helping me (and the cave dwellers downstairs), as I am running out of patience and may one of those days go downstairs and shove this barbeque up their collective butts sideways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in the second floor apartment of two-story/ 8 unit apartment building.  A couple moved in downstairs and placed a huge portable barbeque on the 3’X12’ balcony, right under my apartment. They use the barbeque almost every day (some times during thye day). I am an ‘open windows/no AC’ person and they fill my apartment with smoke, stink of the burning meat, garlic and other smells to the point that when I come home from work I sometimes have a hard time breathing. It has been going on for almost a year and while the landlord is refusing to do anything about it, I attempted to talk to them but only result was me getting cursed out.<br />
Does anyone know if it is legal to have and operate an open flame/gas operated barbecue in the multi dwelling unit not protected by fire sprinklers in Beverly Hills, CA.  Thank you in advance for helping me (and the cave dwellers downstairs), as I am running out of patience and may one of those days go downstairs and shove this barbeque up their collective butts sideways.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 01:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know the old expression &quot;There ought to be a law.&quot;  But law applies to everyone.  I applies to the one who says it too.  So next time you complain about your neighbor bbqing some some hot dogs just remember it works both ways.  The law applies to everyone evn you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know the old expression &#8220;There ought to be a law.&#8221;  But law applies to everyone.  I applies to the one who says it too.  So next time you complain about your neighbor bbqing some some hot dogs just remember it works both ways.  The law applies to everyone evn you.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Dec 2010 00:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The typical interpretation allowed for &lt;strong&gt;ground floor units&lt;/strong&gt; with non-combustible (i.e.: stucco) walls and concrete floors to use gas and charcoal grills - your local Fire Chief may differ. It appears the Code does not make an exception for wood-framed balconies even with tough floors like Dex-O-Tex on lightweight concrete. That&#039;s been my research to date and I managed to keep my CharBroil Grill in place and active even after being served with notice a year ago - I got the local Fire Chief to admit in an email that it wasn&#039;t an issue. YMMV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The typical interpretation allowed for <strong>ground floor units</strong> with non-combustible (i.e.: stucco) walls and concrete floors to use gas and charcoal grills &#8211; your local Fire Chief may differ. It appears the Code does not make an exception for wood-framed balconies even with tough floors like Dex-O-Tex on lightweight concrete. That&#8217;s been my research to date and I managed to keep my CharBroil Grill in place and active even after being served with notice a year ago &#8211; I got the local Fire Chief to admit in an email that it wasn&#8217;t an issue. YMMV</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 00:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the codes are reviewed every there years, and the last review was 2007 then there should be an upcoming review of the fire codes this year.  How do we find out when this occurs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the codes are reviewed every there years, and the last review was 2007 then there should be an upcoming review of the fire codes this year.  How do we find out when this occurs?</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 18:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they should only enforce this law on unstable bbq like the tri-pod ones that can be knocked or blowen over with no effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they should only enforce this law on unstable bbq like the tri-pod ones that can be knocked or blowen over with no effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 04:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This law punishes, restricts, limits only the poor.  Those who can own a home or newer condo, or live in an expensive new apartment are unaffected.  The poor cannot afford to fight back, so it&#039;s law a enacted with impunity.

Find out who your state representative is and ASK THEM how they voted on this.  Punish them by not voting for them if they voted for this asinine law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This law punishes, restricts, limits only the poor.  Those who can own a home or newer condo, or live in an expensive new apartment are unaffected.  The poor cannot afford to fight back, so it&#8217;s law a enacted with impunity.</p>
<p>Find out who your state representative is and ASK THEM how they voted on this.  Punish them by not voting for them if they voted for this asinine law.</p>
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		<title>By: MP</title>
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		<dc:creator>MP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 04:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently moved purchased a new bbq grill. I can say that I knew about the law from living at my old apartment. Before moving here I asked my Property manager if it was ok to have and use Gas Grill and she said that the HOA has no restrictions. I dont see any other grills on the property but can smell the bbq cooking. The complex manager lives next door so it doesnt seem to be a problem (so far. I&#039;ll continue enjoying my grill till I hear otherwise. Lets just hope that the First visit from the Fire Marshall comes with a warning...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently moved purchased a new bbq grill. I can say that I knew about the law from living at my old apartment. Before moving here I asked my Property manager if it was ok to have and use Gas Grill and she said that the HOA has no restrictions. I dont see any other grills on the property but can smell the bbq cooking. The complex manager lives next door so it doesnt seem to be a problem (so far. I&#8217;ll continue enjoying my grill till I hear otherwise. Lets just hope that the First visit from the Fire Marshall comes with a warning&#8230;</p>
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